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Post by newtwilightmoon on May 9, 2008 9:45:45 GMT -5
Our Shadow that covers and protects our cities has chosen new land to begin raising a nation for all our people. The Shadow humbly requests the following land far from other nations so as not to disturb the tranquility and balance with his presence. Along with the Ukraine, Moldova is also set for agricultural and rural territory, where no cities will be built, so as to be a perfect environmental asset to our nation.
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Post by Roma Hawaiiana on May 9, 2008 23:14:20 GMT -5
Roma Hawaiiana has no objection, as the territory is far from our borders.
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Post by newtwilightmoon on May 10, 2008 13:16:16 GMT -5
Then our thanks goes out to you. We have united our cities in harmony and have now began construction on our newest capital whilst the Shadow stays in an undisclosed location for security purposes. We have no quarrel with anyone in this section of the world and hope to remain at peace with everyone around us.
Our people are quite special. We must keep them safe and free. Many have been victims of attacks by countries all over the globe, terrorist and anti-terrorist forces alike have killed their families and attempted to kill them. We are exploring the reason why, but all we know right now is what happened, and we are doing our best to make these people comfortable. Our cities will be spread out over the land so that overpopulation will not become a problem for centuries to come.
Once again, the Shadow thanks you on behalf of his people.
Forever in Twilight! Shadow Representative "Johannes Voursk"
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Post by Roma Hawaiiana on May 10, 2008 22:33:51 GMT -5
Hmph. Be careful not to mistake our acknowledgement of your existence as friendship. We are strict adherents to the Faith, and your "shadow" sounds as if it needs to be "illuminated" by a flight of F-35s. However, we would never use war except as a last resort. Your city planning sounds remarkably similar to our own system, so perhaps we will keep the 1st MEU out of the Black Sea. For now.
(Also, if you wish to rp further, lets move it to the other section of the forum.)
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Post by vitosoprano on May 14, 2008 7:45:05 GMT -5
has anyone taken over the cartographer position? i would be most pleased to be the first to say "not it" lol
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Post by Roma Hawaiiana on May 14, 2008 20:07:30 GMT -5
not it. Also, i don't really know how to post pictures, so that could be problematic.
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Lord_Malak
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Post by Lord_Malak on May 15, 2008 17:39:15 GMT -5
Good to see that we have new people around. I am looking forward to great relations with the Holy Twlight Empire - we can profit mutually from this, and we are ready to protect the weak against terrorists and fanatics. You can trust in Bylazoria.
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Post by faestos on May 24, 2008 17:58:09 GMT -5
Hey twillight, how does this work with the current map? Remember you MUST have access to Mediterranean sea and not claim TOO much land close to it. I have a suggestion map in proposals. Btw, can you transfer Ani Lorak from your lands to ours? We're willing to pay a lot to have her perform in our stadiums.
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Post by Limington on May 28, 2008 10:18:20 GMT -5
We have never and will never require you to have access to the Med to place your country.
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Post by faestos on May 29, 2008 9:24:35 GMT -5
How is it Mediterranean then? If it's feasible, and given the area vacant still, it is, I think the Mediterranean should be rp with such countries. E.g. Mediterranean games en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Games , Russia never took part, or the Roman Empire surrounded the Mediterranean. Also, all the current nations in the official map have access to it. Only seems logical. In my mind Pacific for instance could not include, say, Belgium, if it used a map of the Pacific. Unless we only call it Mediterranean and we really mean Europe? Or the World? In which case we should include another map to display more territories. Or are you referring to something like this map, which is still strange, IMO? If we go strictly by the book, this is the Interpretation of Mediterranean countries: "Twenty-one modern states have a coastline on the Mediterranean Sea. They are: * Europe (from west to east): Spain, France, Monaco, Italy, the island state of Malta, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, Greece, Turkey and Cyprus. * Asia (from north to south): Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and Israel. * Africa (from east to west): Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco. Several other territories also border the Mediterranean Sea (from west to east): * The British overseas territory of Gibraltar * The Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla and nearby islands * The British sovereign base area of Akrotiri and Dhekelia * The Palestinian National Authority Andorra, Jordan, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia, and the Vatican City, although they do not border the sea, are often considered Mediterranean countries in a wider sense due to their Mediterranean climate, fauna and flora, and/or their cultural affinity with other Mediterranean countries." Some bold text there to discriminate between the strict and the lose version. Whatever version is to be adopted, has to be outlined in a post by forum moderator IMO, as it leaves alot to the interpretation. Less mistakes to be made if the groundwork exists, on every given issue.
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Post by Limington on May 30, 2008 0:20:08 GMT -5
The reason the map is of what it is, is to show what is allowed to be claimed. If we wanted it to be strictly only places right on the med we wouldn't have the british isles or denmark or russian territories pictured. All land connecting to the med or not is playable and always has been.
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Post by newtwilightmoon on Jun 8, 2008 12:17:06 GMT -5
Ah, I see. Well, just to iterate, this is the Ukraine that was chosen, because it was on the map. But, if that's unacceptable, I'll figure out another place to put it. But before I do anything, I'll need to see a current map of the region (as the maps I've seen seem not to be updated).
Anyways, the Mediterranean is actually a type of climate based around the Mediterranean sea, but there is Mediterranean style climate in California as well, though it's not around the Mediterranean sea...
But as limington said, there's a lot of non-Mediterranean areas there too, because if there wasn't, there wouldn't be a lot of breathing room for countries XD Ukraine is one of the Russian territories up there, so that's why I selected it. It's out of the way and a good place to start off, or so I think. If whoever is 'head' of the region thinks otherwise, then I'll just adapt to the wishes of the region's 'leader'.
And from now on, I'll stay OOC when not in the roleplaying areas. Just starting ICly cause that's how I saw several others do... But if anyone decides to jump off a cliff, I'm not following XD
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Post by drako on Jun 8, 2008 16:15:36 GMT -5
New Twilight, I made a claim too and stuck it on map proposals. I put both your and my claim on the map...hopefully it will be duly noted.
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Post by faestos on Jun 8, 2008 21:20:08 GMT -5
The head of the region(founder) is endless summer, which seems to have dropped playing a long time ago. Current leader, if you take WA delegates would seem to be Novum Roma, but he never roleplays as I'm told. I'll draw a map proposal as to what your map could be including still the area you want and also have a coastline. I'm personally fine with objections, input is good for the most part, but those with objections tend to not object were they should. For instance a thread is created, that they never check or contribute to and based on that someone(e.g. myself) will say something as there was no countering it. Then someone that had an objection comes to state otherwise, when this could be avoided if there were clarifications in the thread it all derived from. Furthermore it's often that they don't offer their opinion when something is changed in accordance to their objection which seems customary here as well. I don't believe you can just disagree with something and then when you're asked if you agree with it you just ignore the thread. It's not like we have a million threads here and voices are lost, it's very easy to pick up. Also, there are huge assumptions, like I should know(while I've started gaming only recently) the map was selected for such and such reasons and this or that is allowed, when in fact(and allow me to know that as I did read all the rp threads) such things are not stated anywhere(and in addition all the current members are in coastline based areas). Maybe they were once, but it doesn't hurt if someone reposts them, it's a couple minutes typing each I'd guess. For instance, I made this proposal cause in this thread, thenewmedforum.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=geography&action=display&thread=46none of the other older than me members seems to disagree, which means they're either equally ignorant to me on basics that stand for the region or that they weren't ever set in stone. also, I'd say from what I read in the threads, Map claims can be OOC. Seems that mostly RP threads are IC mainly(including Nations details ones), though this is subject to change.
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Post by Limington on Jun 9, 2008 6:42:51 GMT -5
I ignored it cause it was redundant and stupid. Your territories are ignorant and seems to me just because you were deemed cartographer you decided to make your own rules. This region and the rp that has been based on it has grown, fallen and rebuilt. Those of us actually old enough to remember the real forums we once had know the rules and we have not written down what they were as of yet. Roma liked the map and that was the response to your post, but never was it said they agreed with the connecting to the med. And trust me, if you continue to try and force the issue I will move to have you taken from the post of cartographer and that is the end of it. As the oldest standing member of this region I know and understand a great deal and watch a great deal even if I don't say much. Novum Roma is a Russian Nation center in the far north of our map and extending into the unmapped region, it might not be shown anymore since they do not rp like they once did but that is where they have always been. We do not require connection to the med and I vote against your redrawing of the territory for this nation they stated where they wanted and you will either place that claim as they made it or leave your post.
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