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Post by vitosoprano on Jun 9, 2008 18:58:24 GMT -5
<applause> BTw, who the hell is claiming california???
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Post by Limington on Jun 9, 2008 23:55:57 GMT -5
Vito I'm glad you're so much help
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Post by newtwilightmoon on Jun 11, 2008 11:58:52 GMT -5
Bah, I don't mind. In fact, I took a second look at the territorial map there and really his decision for my claim is close enough, though still I wouldn't mind having it exactly where I wanted it, but I'm not willing to start a fight over it XD Whoever is supposed to be this continuity's 'rah' (or OOC rulemaker and guild leader, so to speak) will just have to make the final decision.
And I didn't say California was a part of the region around the Mediterranean sea, I merely said it had the same climate. In the debate about what is meant by the 'Mediterranean' region, I just brought up all possibilities that had been discussed over Wikipedia and multiple forums.
But as I was saying, I would like New Twilight Moon to be closer to the Ukraine, or around there. Still, the map is really good and original. Even though I want my government to be set up in the Ukraine, it could have more or less territory than that. I should get set working on the date NTM was set up... I suspect it's technological level would be following the rest of Europe's, so it's military will be modern.
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Post by vitosoprano on Jun 12, 2008 4:52:27 GMT -5
Here's my help limington: i propose a council/committee of 2-3 veteran players to have final approval over the procedure for and approval of map claims. I still think map claims sould be Rp'd, even if it's as easy as "rebels forces in the third day of fighting have unseated the president, blah blah blah yada yada yada, etc etc etc, and son, ad nauseum, you get the idea" in addition, approval for map claims seems not only fair, but practical as well.
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Post by newtwilightmoon on Jun 12, 2008 10:43:47 GMT -5
Here's my help limington: i propose a council/committee of 2-3 veteran players to have final approval over the procedure for and approval of map claims. I still think map claims sould be Rp'd, even if it's as easy as "rebels forces in the third day of fighting have unseated the president, blah blah blah yada yada yada, etc etc etc, and son, ad nauseum, you get the idea" in addition, approval for map claims seems not only fair, but practical as well. Of course, that would mean that we would be following real life history and making fictional futures for real life countries. I was thinking an alternate history in which the New Twilight Moon had started where the Ukraine was supposed to be, replacing that nation but being much different. Still, roleplaying some sort of rebellion I wouldn't mind too much XD In fact, I may decide to roleplay said rebellion or better yet, change of the government, one way or another. But forcing everyone to do it really should be up to whoever is responsible for keeping this region's rules and such... As for a council of veterans, maybe it would be better to wait until the Med gets more players involved before doing that. This region's just too small for a Council yet, I think. But then again, I can see the pros. Still, I'm just making a suggestion, do with it as you wish.
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Post by Limington on Jun 12, 2008 16:37:48 GMT -5
I rp'd my nation forming long ago, and I see no problem with the committee idea.
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Post by faestos on Jun 15, 2008 22:48:50 GMT -5
On the approval thing I was for it from the start of joining here, so you guys have my consent on it. Considering the region has loads of new members, I think it would be best if the committee was comprised of older members that were present before the old rules were deleted and will have a knowledge on them.
I don't have a problem to that(being or not the cartographer) it will not make or break my day. I most certainly don't seek argument with every single post I make on such issues. Nor do it's of my character to resort to unfounded name calling without backing what I say.
I only asked for suggestions on several things after proposing mine and as I didn't get feedback I think it's only natural I proceeded with it. It's common practice in life that if you don't get negative feedback on something it's assumed it's accepted. Like the regions drawn in the map for nations, I wait a little and if nobody has to say something against it, I draw them, it's the same principle.
And no, I don't make my own rules or forcing them to others, what said from me is debatable. Especially considering I don't know the rules which obviously exist in your mind, were they do me no good, as I'm no mind-reader and not being so old as you here I do not know the rules.
Informing me about the past is doing me no good either does it? Cause if there were and fallen and got rebuilt, still doesn't educate me on them, right? Or does me saying so seems ignorant and stupid to you as well?
Cause as far as I know IRL, you're not forgiven if you violate a law you're unaware of but those laws ARE written down somewhere and ARE accessible, so you SHOULD have READ them states the lawmaker. Not become a mind-reader on something you'd like to know but can't find info on, anywhere.
And the situation being like that for months though it could be clarified till those rules are re-written, in my thread, as stupid or ignorant as it might be(next time you get a referendum on something by the way, feel free not to vote and let it pass, even if it's greatly against your interests, just cause you think it is, or call it "ignorant and stupid"). If anything you can improve it by adding to it knowledge and intelligence that you obviously have in abundance.
That being said, I'll make a version of the map with that claim, but I can't work with under those circumstances. The main reason I proposed was cause at the time, not many seemed to know how to post maps in this board. Seems to me like there are quite a few now.
I usually have time to check this board on Sundays. I'm not interested to build any more maps when I don't know were to begin with. Feel free to replace me if there's not something to give me an idea on what's permissible. I promise I will not cry from embarrassment for the unique privilege being stripped.
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