Post by faestos on Aug 16, 2008 16:51:37 GMT -5
(THIS IS A DIRECT TRANSFER FROM NS 1 FORUMS)
Post 1
Looking for a construction company
The Faestian state is looking to create a vast canal, environmentally friendly, to shorten traveling times from the regional med sea to the Atlantic.
As currently all local construction companies are allocating their resources to others endeavors(mainly schools, malls, ports, airports, military installations, corporate skyscrapers) there is a need to resort to external contractors.
The canal must begin its route near the Longbay port as outlined in the picture map included(in red color).
We require that the damage to the environment will be minimal(under .2 percent throughout the route) and that the entire work will not exceed 25 years in construction.
The prices will be fixed and cannot be raised. The total cost will be divided and wired to the company receiving the contract, the last working day of each year.
The study must be concluded within a year and handed to us, with your offer.
The best offer will be selected and appointed to the winning company within three years of the first offer sent to us. Only one offer will be accepted, the first, with no revisions after you checkout later offers--to keep a balance and fairness.
On behalf of Faestian people,
Protomil Evangelo Mateon
Post 2
Message from Bai engineering
we have deemed your canal to be, not impossible, but highly unfeasible with current technology. Nevertheless we must put forth our offer.
We propose a route the uses the Ebro River as the primary means of transport for a majority of the distance. This rive goes into the heart of spain and reaches a great distance closer to the atlantic. However, the main obstacle blocking this and any canal from working are the mountains to the north. The canal we propose will end up by the city of Bilao. Still the intended canal will be around 50 miles long (110 km) making the canal infesible with the amount of locks needed. Also there will be segnificant ecological damage from ships and the deepening of the Ebro river.
We highly suggest that you do not attempt this. it will ruin your country with the cost and the cost is no where near the benefit gained. We hope you will eliminate your plans for this canal and just use Gibraltar like all other countries.
the ecological damage is required because ships will leave oil and the amount of terraforming and earthmoving needed is significant enough to cause damage. We hope again you will reconsider your request.
Bai engineering
Post 3
ICCD's EnviroGreen can take on this project.
Our Tender is $10 Trillion for the project over a period of 25 years Or approximately $400 Billion/year The payment plan would run 2 Trillion Intitial capital then 400 Billion Each year there after. All funds would be paid in ICCD via the Dian Banking system. Resources would be aquired locally and elsewhere as aquired. The local workforce would be employed as required and willing.
Post 4
EnviroGreen is the #1 Dian Construction Firm and is specializes in Tunneling. For over 400 years in one form or another the Families of those who work in the company have been involved in precise mining operations.
Do not doubt this companies ability for enviornmental success, ICCD is a stunning nation whos citizens have nutured for hundreds of years. Mountains themselves may be used to help create basings for this project. Envirogreen has cooperated with companies such as MagmaTec in very large scale environmental projects. While the ecology is changed with such massive projects, many factors are taken into account to insure that there is no long term degredation or failure of the human habitat. The large scale of secondary projects such as aquiculture, power generation and other useful applications can be integrated into this project on an only marginal cost and time factor.
Drilling a 450 KM (200 mile) canal is no small undertaking. As driving that distance let alone tunneling would take some time. Depth is also taken into account. The project would be approached by mapping the best route then pilling up dirt levels or digging down to reduce the need for locks. The excess dirt and rock then can be used for other purposes later in the system to create baileys as required or a lining wall to create runoff out of the canal.
Effectively an artificial river is being made, but for shipping practicality the depth is the issue if doing a 70M deep trench, 40M would probably do most ships, by 200 Meters by 400KM that is a lot of space.
We are confident that a 25 year timeframe will be sufficient to do this on a basis of 16KM / year, if not more. The project would start inland and work both directions and till the seawalls are breached.
Post 5
Vault-Tec Inc.
Greetings. We are from the Vault-Tec corporation, which has always prided itself on the fact that there's no project we can't undertake; for an appropriate cost.
As a matter of fact, our company is responsible for what was once considered impossible: the Vault Project, the construction of thousands of deep bunkers which allowed one nation to survive a massive nuclear war - a nation, in recognition of that project, now known as Vault 10.
We are specialized in underground construction, which, as a part of it, includes ground removal. Thus, we can fulfill your project, at a reasonable cost, and in a short time. We have decades of working with extreme-scale ground removal. By now, we can put it simply - it's what we do.
To give a precise estimate, we would only need you to tell us some detail:
* How wide should the canal be? You can specify width and depth, or just tell the approximate tonnage or size class of a ship that should pass through it.
* What is the ground constituted of? Is it sand, or peat, or rock, or another kind of soil?
* What is the exact length of the canal required?
We'll respond with specific cost and time requirements immediately after learning this information.
Respectfully,
Leonard Jameson,
Vault-Tec Inc.
Post 6
To Protomil Evangelo Mateon,
We can build your canal for you. We have done a feasibility study, and these are the findings of said study. We have estimated your Canal to be approximately 200 miles. We have determined that it is possible to dig through the terrain you indicated, and that there should be no issues with that aspect of the project. We have also determined that we can complete this project with minimal environmental impact. We assure you that we will follow Best Management Practices toward the construction of the canal. We will address such issues as air and water pollution, storm water run-off, loss of vegetation, loss of biodiversity, erosion. We will limit the cutting of trees, us hydrogen powered vehicles, avoid the use of materials that will prevent storm water from being absorbed by the soil, and try to disturb as little wild life habitat as possible. Any trees we cut down, will be replaced following the completion of the canal. We have determined that we can have this project completed in 15 years, at a cost of $752,526,548,545.39 total.
Signed,
Jimmy James
CEO, Owner
James Digging Co.
(A division of Jimmy James Industries)
Post 6
Mr. Mateon,
Pale Rider Arms as a corporation has a vast amount of experience in large scale construction projects, from the Otagian National Superconducting Power Grid, to the Arbite City Arcological Project, to canal projects across the world. Our extensive experience and established (and easily portable) infrastructure make us the logical choice for your nation's project.
While we are currently unable to give an exact bid due to lack of precise data on the geography of the planned route, preliminary estimates would place the cost at roughly $60,000,000,000 over a period of ten years, for a 350 km canal cut to Panamax dimensions. Note that this cost assumes usage and expansion of existing waterways to lessen the impact on the environment and speed construction. Restrictions upon the usage of waterways, however, would result in cost increases, possibly by as much as 200%.
While these estimates rely primarily on unverified assumptions, we are confident that we will be able to fill your nation's needs. If our preliminary estimates are acceptable, please forward more precise data and we will happily adjust costs appropriately. We look forward to working with you in the future.
Yours,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
OOC: Preliminary estimate is based on Spanish geography, including the Ebro River.
Post 7
(OOC: using existing waterways would be damaging to those waterways ecosystems...)
Post 1
Looking for a construction company
The Faestian state is looking to create a vast canal, environmentally friendly, to shorten traveling times from the regional med sea to the Atlantic.
As currently all local construction companies are allocating their resources to others endeavors(mainly schools, malls, ports, airports, military installations, corporate skyscrapers) there is a need to resort to external contractors.
The canal must begin its route near the Longbay port as outlined in the picture map included(in red color).
We require that the damage to the environment will be minimal(under .2 percent throughout the route) and that the entire work will not exceed 25 years in construction.
The prices will be fixed and cannot be raised. The total cost will be divided and wired to the company receiving the contract, the last working day of each year.
The study must be concluded within a year and handed to us, with your offer.
The best offer will be selected and appointed to the winning company within three years of the first offer sent to us. Only one offer will be accepted, the first, with no revisions after you checkout later offers--to keep a balance and fairness.
On behalf of Faestian people,
Protomil Evangelo Mateon
Post 2
Message from Bai engineering
we have deemed your canal to be, not impossible, but highly unfeasible with current technology. Nevertheless we must put forth our offer.
We propose a route the uses the Ebro River as the primary means of transport for a majority of the distance. This rive goes into the heart of spain and reaches a great distance closer to the atlantic. However, the main obstacle blocking this and any canal from working are the mountains to the north. The canal we propose will end up by the city of Bilao. Still the intended canal will be around 50 miles long (110 km) making the canal infesible with the amount of locks needed. Also there will be segnificant ecological damage from ships and the deepening of the Ebro river.
We highly suggest that you do not attempt this. it will ruin your country with the cost and the cost is no where near the benefit gained. We hope you will eliminate your plans for this canal and just use Gibraltar like all other countries.
the ecological damage is required because ships will leave oil and the amount of terraforming and earthmoving needed is significant enough to cause damage. We hope again you will reconsider your request.
Bai engineering
Post 3
ICCD's EnviroGreen can take on this project.
Our Tender is $10 Trillion for the project over a period of 25 years Or approximately $400 Billion/year The payment plan would run 2 Trillion Intitial capital then 400 Billion Each year there after. All funds would be paid in ICCD via the Dian Banking system. Resources would be aquired locally and elsewhere as aquired. The local workforce would be employed as required and willing.
Post 4
EnviroGreen is the #1 Dian Construction Firm and is specializes in Tunneling. For over 400 years in one form or another the Families of those who work in the company have been involved in precise mining operations.
Do not doubt this companies ability for enviornmental success, ICCD is a stunning nation whos citizens have nutured for hundreds of years. Mountains themselves may be used to help create basings for this project. Envirogreen has cooperated with companies such as MagmaTec in very large scale environmental projects. While the ecology is changed with such massive projects, many factors are taken into account to insure that there is no long term degredation or failure of the human habitat. The large scale of secondary projects such as aquiculture, power generation and other useful applications can be integrated into this project on an only marginal cost and time factor.
Drilling a 450 KM (200 mile) canal is no small undertaking. As driving that distance let alone tunneling would take some time. Depth is also taken into account. The project would be approached by mapping the best route then pilling up dirt levels or digging down to reduce the need for locks. The excess dirt and rock then can be used for other purposes later in the system to create baileys as required or a lining wall to create runoff out of the canal.
Effectively an artificial river is being made, but for shipping practicality the depth is the issue if doing a 70M deep trench, 40M would probably do most ships, by 200 Meters by 400KM that is a lot of space.
We are confident that a 25 year timeframe will be sufficient to do this on a basis of 16KM / year, if not more. The project would start inland and work both directions and till the seawalls are breached.
Post 5
Vault-Tec Inc.
Greetings. We are from the Vault-Tec corporation, which has always prided itself on the fact that there's no project we can't undertake; for an appropriate cost.
As a matter of fact, our company is responsible for what was once considered impossible: the Vault Project, the construction of thousands of deep bunkers which allowed one nation to survive a massive nuclear war - a nation, in recognition of that project, now known as Vault 10.
We are specialized in underground construction, which, as a part of it, includes ground removal. Thus, we can fulfill your project, at a reasonable cost, and in a short time. We have decades of working with extreme-scale ground removal. By now, we can put it simply - it's what we do.
To give a precise estimate, we would only need you to tell us some detail:
* How wide should the canal be? You can specify width and depth, or just tell the approximate tonnage or size class of a ship that should pass through it.
* What is the ground constituted of? Is it sand, or peat, or rock, or another kind of soil?
* What is the exact length of the canal required?
We'll respond with specific cost and time requirements immediately after learning this information.
Respectfully,
Leonard Jameson,
Vault-Tec Inc.
Post 6
To Protomil Evangelo Mateon,
We can build your canal for you. We have done a feasibility study, and these are the findings of said study. We have estimated your Canal to be approximately 200 miles. We have determined that it is possible to dig through the terrain you indicated, and that there should be no issues with that aspect of the project. We have also determined that we can complete this project with minimal environmental impact. We assure you that we will follow Best Management Practices toward the construction of the canal. We will address such issues as air and water pollution, storm water run-off, loss of vegetation, loss of biodiversity, erosion. We will limit the cutting of trees, us hydrogen powered vehicles, avoid the use of materials that will prevent storm water from being absorbed by the soil, and try to disturb as little wild life habitat as possible. Any trees we cut down, will be replaced following the completion of the canal. We have determined that we can have this project completed in 15 years, at a cost of $752,526,548,545.39 total.
Signed,
Jimmy James
CEO, Owner
James Digging Co.
(A division of Jimmy James Industries)
Post 6
Mr. Mateon,
Pale Rider Arms as a corporation has a vast amount of experience in large scale construction projects, from the Otagian National Superconducting Power Grid, to the Arbite City Arcological Project, to canal projects across the world. Our extensive experience and established (and easily portable) infrastructure make us the logical choice for your nation's project.
While we are currently unable to give an exact bid due to lack of precise data on the geography of the planned route, preliminary estimates would place the cost at roughly $60,000,000,000 over a period of ten years, for a 350 km canal cut to Panamax dimensions. Note that this cost assumes usage and expansion of existing waterways to lessen the impact on the environment and speed construction. Restrictions upon the usage of waterways, however, would result in cost increases, possibly by as much as 200%.
While these estimates rely primarily on unverified assumptions, we are confident that we will be able to fill your nation's needs. If our preliminary estimates are acceptable, please forward more precise data and we will happily adjust costs appropriately. We look forward to working with you in the future.
Yours,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
OOC: Preliminary estimate is based on Spanish geography, including the Ebro River.
Post 7
(OOC: using existing waterways would be damaging to those waterways ecosystems...)